1. Here are the payouts for each bet: Any Seven - 4:1 payout; Any Craps, Hard 4 and 10 - 7:1 payout; Hard 6 and Hard 8 - 9:1 payout; Craps 3 or 11 - 15:1 payout; Craps 2 or 12 - 30:1 payout Big 6 and Big 8 Bets - You are betting even money that you will get a 6 or 8 before a 7 is rolled.
2. The Hard 8 and Hard 6 payoffs are 9:1 (“9 to 1”). We learned in our other lessons that craps is all about math, so let’s see if you’re getting the hang of thinking in terms of math. Why is the payoff for the Hard 6 and Hard 8 more than it is for the Hard 10 and Hard 4?
3. Since snake-eyes and boxcars are two of the three craps rolls, bets on the number combination are treated differently. The Hard 6 and Hard 8 bets pay 9 to 1 in the United States and have a house edge of 9.09%. The Hard 4 and Hard 10 in the United States bets pay 7 to 1 and have a house edge of 11.11%.

A “Hard 8”–the hardway of 8–is from a pair of dice, or 4 and 4. Players can bet on a shoot to land on a “Hard 4,” “Hard 6,” “Hard 8,” or “Hard 10” to bet on a matched pair of dice. (“Hard 2” and “Hard 12” isn’t a thing, since a pair of 1’s and a pair of 6’s is the only way to produce this outcome.).

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Anyways he claims that he's made over 200 grand playing the fire and that he's been on over 80 fire bets so far this year.

sure, why not
some can get lucky for extended periods of time
especially with payoffs of 250 and 1000 for 1

I find the 200K profit to be hard to believe.

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I find the $200K profit to be easy to believe
and he also wins $600 or $6,225 too (more often than the 6Fire, imo)

I think he might have grossed 200K, but might have spent more than 200K chasing the fire.

that could be true too

Anyways the probability of hitting a 6 point fire is 1 in 6,100 and something.

yes

Recently the idea popped into my head.
Wouldn't he better off just putting a $25 chip on the hard 6 on every shooter and parlaying it twice to get it up to $2,500 and then collecting the $25,000 payout?

better off in what way?
Firebet, imo, would be more fun

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It seems to me like you see the hard 6 or the hard 8 come 3 times before an easy 6 or 7 far more often than a 6 point fire bet.

like I see that too, but not many of the tables I play at even have the Firebet
and I did mention he wins on 4 and 5 points too
and the parlay to $25k either does or does not pay
Sally

I think he might have grossed 200K, but might have spent more than 200K chasing the fire.

That's pretty much what it is for 99% gamblers who claim big wins ... lol
The only 1% is just dumb luck ... with special emphasis on the *dumb*! ;)

Personally I prefer the fire bet over any other side bet at the craps table ... Hardways and prop bets aren't only sucker bets because of the high house edge, they're also boring as #%€&.

Actually .. the few times I get to play I usually use the hardways for my slush $1 once I start getting too many. Usually I'll toss the stick $3-4 and tell him/her 'two way' .. it might not be the best bet to tip the dealers statistically .. but they actually get to book it and it's right there in front of them so they all know I appreciate their work.
That being said .. I only get to play when I'm on vacation .. and only buy in for a couple hundred (like once a year) .. and I'm not there to make tons of money (or at least I'm at the point where the few dollars I risk really doesn't change my life at all if the house is getting 3% vs 10%) ... I know my odds are not great on them and don't play them when I'm down .. but they do make for a fun little extra when they do come out .. better than buying a scratchie at the local 7/11! lol

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